The other day I listened to one of my favorite podcasts—one that unfortunately had a bad guest.

What do I mean by a bad guest? In this case I mean one who speaks in platitudes without relaying any useful, interesting or actionable content i.e. feel-good jibber-jabber.

Yet despite this, I decided to listen to the whole thing.

Why?

Because the I wanted to learn from the host—someone who is an exceptional podcaster—how to handle this scenario.

And guess what? I wasn’t disappointed. She handled the whole interview with grace and thoughtfulness, extracting the rare , small, and useful nuggets of information when she could, while at the same time not making the guest feel bad.

Sometimes you can even learn from jibber-jabber.